Are You Being Trained by A Mentor That Rebelled?
Posted by Jana Bone on Wednesday, May 19, 2010
Under: Strategies for Leaders
Are You Being Trained and Mentor by A Leader that Have REBELLED?
Healing for the Pastor that sees nothing but rebellion Part 1
This was a message that was birthed in the time of my spiritual mother fall. Yes she had a fall that almost devastated ministry today. Her fall was much like Moses she allowed the people harden hearts and refusal of trusting in who Yahweh called her to be as their leader bitter her heart and shift her attitude...This is a PRAYER I have OFTEN Prayed because of her fall... Let not what I see in the People cause me TO Loose sight of YOU Yahweh.... Before I stand before man on Your Behalf ABBA I must stand before You on the behalf of Men....
Numbers 27
14For you disobeyed My order in the Wilderness of Zin during the strife of the congregation to uphold My sanctity [by strict obedience to My authority] at the waters before their eyes. [These are the waters of Meribah in Kadesh in the Wilderness of Zin].
This is something many PASTORS and great leaders fall prey too...There are pastors that have a love for Yah so strong but the people they are called to led DOES NOT..Pastors and Leaders can become frustrated aggravated and disappointed in their flock. What caused Moses to REBELL against YAHWEH’S commandment. In the strive of the congregation Moses doubted that Yah could bless such a rebellious people. He received Yah’s commands and instructions but instead of following through what Yah said in faith (support) He judged the people in anger. He was too busy looking at their attitudes their rebellion their doubt and unbelief until Moses step out of Yahweh’s Leading and walked into their heart. Moses loved his followers more than he could obey YAH. He was so passionated about their obedience that He missed that Yahweh was saying just be an example to them and let them seal their judgment by their own actions .
Think about it. Moses saw all that Yahweh has done for these people because He loves them. He remember the one on one at the burning bush. He went back how Yah dealt with his own fears. He saw how the journey back to the place he once called home to become the battle axe against the people he once called family. He remember the way Yahweh made sure he was in order and went to elders first to tell all that happened to him, and that he was being sent in YAHWEH’S name as the I am that I am. He thought back on how they rejected him then. He thought back how the elders walked with him, to the first encounter of Pharaoh and looked beside him all dropped of and only one left standing was Aaron. It pained him to remember that he was in the presence of Yah for 40 days and carrying His commandments in His hands. He just reminded YAH Him self about not delivering them just to be laughed at because He kill them in the desert. As He came down hearing the sound of SIN first, then watching YAH’S people whom he just represented in sexual ritual acts before an idol god. Then how he had to hand scribe that which he destroyed because YAH still wanted to give His holy commandments to these defiled people. The heart of this leader was grieved because Korah like the devil himself gathered a percentage of the elders to usurp the authority of his leading giving by Yah.
THIS MAN was grieved, this last act just caused him to doubt and question why would such a Sovereign Yah that corrected him, trained and structure him in holiness would place him before these rebellious people and still want to bless them.
Many do not understand the tears the fight the struggle the pain of a TRUE YAH sent leader..
Moses defiled his leadership by rebelling against the commands of YAH concerning the people whom he was to lead. All out of strive over their rebellion.
Seems unfair, seems cruel seems so unlike YAH. Have we forgotten leadership will be judge HARSHER than the laymen??.
James 3:1
NOT MANY [of you] should become teachers ( self-constituted censors and reprovers of others), my brethren, for you know that we [teachers] will be judged by a higher standard and with greater severity [than other people; thus we assume the greater accountability and the more condemnation].
Moses yet loved the people and understood through his rebellion that the judgment was death. He then asked.
Numbers 27:
15And Moses said to the Lord,
16Let the Lord, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation
17Who shall go out and come in before them, leading them out and bringing them in, that the congregation of the Lord may not be as sheep which have no shepherd.
Even in his rebuke he asked for the people. He still stood as a representative for MEN. He did not accuse them but stood for them. A true YAH sent leader is still doing the same today. THIS LEADERSHIP was not meant to die with Moses nor did it.
Moses passed it down to Joshua.
18The Lord said to Moses, Take Joshua son of Nun, a man in whom is the Spirit, and lay your hand upon him;
20And put some of your honor and authority upon him, that all the congregation of the Israelites may obey him.
23And he laid his hands upon him and commissioned him, as the Lord commanded through Moses.
Pastors learning how to see evil and not react to evil but yet Obey Yah.
Now as I write this it becomes very personal to me because I know that the spirit of Ezekiel rest heavy over the assignment and missions Yahweh has given me... Speaking and restoring the Rebellious House. As I walk with Yah into the rebellion and look behind the walls see the creepy and crawling things it is hard to continue on seeing the commands of Yah upon those whom He is stilling calling by name...It gets harder and harder to carry out the orders of our Abba of mercy when all you see is REBELLION..It does not only become physically hard but also mentally hard... “WHY am I being corrected judged and chastise for these PEOPLE” sometimes become my cry... BUT quickly I have to get up and march on even when I am tired... There are other TRUE YAH sent Leaders that do the same thing.... I also have to admit I can not wait to hear when YAH says enough I extended MY Mercy and grace is no longer given it is time to judge prune and cut off... As I am being honest do you know HOW LONG that sometimes TAKE????....
Leaders are under so much that we must make sure we are equip for the ministry at hand before we even attempt to take on the SPIRIT of leadership....
Deuteronomy 1
37The Lord was angry with me also for your sakes, and said, You also shall not enter Canaan.
38But Joshua son of Nun, who stands before you, he shall enter there. Encourage him, for he shall cause Israel to inherit it.
Though Moses was a servant of the Lord, a faithful servant, Moses disobeyed Yah’s orders out of strive and failed in his duty..Leaders you have to keep this covered... That rebellion will hit you in the face and you will prematurely cut off a limb that have signs of health. YOU have TO WAIT on Yahweh and follow HIS orders at all times concerning the people you are to lead....Even when it hurts... Even when they rebel against Yahweh and your authority.
Once a leader such as Moses fall into this state and Yahweh says okay you can not lead them into the place of elevation are you willing to train the ONE THAT WILL????...Are you so focus on YAHWEH and HIS mission that you can accept not receiving the PROMISE here but train someone that will your followers into the promise??? ....
Follower are you able to be mentored into such positions???...Have you allowed tradition doctrines and your own personal goal of ministry keep you from taking on the SPIRIT of a LEADER that wants to see the Promise of YAHWEH come to pass for the PEOPLE?????
Joshua get up and Take Moses Place. Let not Ministry die.
Deuteronomy 34
8And the Israelites wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days; then the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended.
9And Joshua son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom, for Moses had laid his hands upon him; so the Israelites listened to him and did as the Lord commanded Moses.
I can imagine when my spiritual mother had to go through such things.. Training us for something she would not be allowed to see.. Still loving YAH and understanding the purpose...
Joshua was wise WHY???.... Because of HIS training equipping and Moses Laid his hands upon him... That is what it meant... It is not because Moses physically touched him... But Moses actually poured himself inside of him...
Before I go any further, I had to educate many people on this scripture... They told me I could never know YAHWEH face to FACE like MOSES... Because there never rose according the scripture a prophet as great as Moses since... READ IT PEOPLE....
10And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face,
11[None equal to him] in all the signs and wonders which the Lord sent him to do in the land of Egypt--to Pharaoh and to all his servants and to all his land,
12And in all the mighty power and all the great and terrible deeds which Moses wrought in the sight of all Israel.
That scripture says it all... First it said in ISRAEL... Many people teach there can never be a prophet equal to Moses... The scripture does not say that...We are rising to do all the mighty power and all the great and terrible deeds which Moses wrought in the sight of all Israel in the SIGHT of THE NATIONS!!!!!
Joshua 1
1AFTER THE death of Moses the servant of the Lord, the Lord said to Joshua son of Nun, Moses' minister,
2Moses My servant is dead. So now arise [take his place], go over this Jordan, you and all this people, into the land which I am giving to them, the Israelites.
3Every place upon which the sole of your foot shall tread, that have I given to you, as I promised Moses.
This is a big problem in the church today. Many are seeking their own ministry their own identity their own anointing and allow MINISTRIES such as MOSES go UNFINISHED!!!!..
We have so much teachings on seeking your own ministry and seeking your own calling ... Make sure you do not try to mimic your leader that many are rejecting the mission of JOSHUA...I was one that was being talked out of my MISSION As Joshua...
People came in good intention trying to stop me from what they call worshiping my leader... They came trying to teach me that I am too busy trying to become just like my leader... I know it was all in good intention but it was not the MESSAGE for MY MISSION of YAHWEH...I was sent to my spiritual mother I was birth in her spiritual prayer womb for different purpose of all her other children... I was called to TAKE HER PLACE.... Her mission is not up upon this LAND... It was sidetracked and stopped by her STRIVE with her followers... She yes like Moses is a loyal faithful servant... She loves Yahweh with her whole heart... She like Moses have stepped into judgement of not seeing this mission through to the end and like Moses she prayed that a shepherd would rise to carry the people into the PROMISE....
I was hearing many voices all with LOVE and Concerns about my SPIRITUAL life that came with conflicting words towards where YAHWEH was TAKING ME!!!....
I became unsure and uneasy with my training... I begin to go through the check list of the don’ts people put before me.. Do not pray like her... You sound too much like her... DO not put your hands on your hip like her... Why are you wearing a rob like her??.... I begin to be cautious of not trying do what they called worshipping her or being cloned into her that I was about to MISS HER SPIRIT!!!!!! !....
I was about to reject the very reason why YAH called her to this MISSION... It was being rejected because I wanted my own.... I did not want passed down anointing... I wanting fresh anointing... MY identity was being lost I convinced my self... Oh this is not of YAH... Why do I want her spirit any way she is REJECTED to go into the PROMISE....
I was reasoning my way out of what Yah had ordered...
Now I thank YAHWEH ahhhhh... That I woke up from that and learned that I had to submit and take on as Joshua...Look at what I would have missed....
Joshua 1
3Every place upon which the sole of your foot shall tread, that have I given to you, as I promised Moses.
4From the wilderness and this Lebanon to the great river Euphrates--all the land of the [a]Hittites [Canaan]--and to the Great [Mediterranean] Sea on the west shall be your territory.
5No man shall be able to stand before you all the days of your life. As I was with Moses, so I will be with you; I will not fail you or forsake you.
I had to stop listening to people saying you have your OWN MINISTRY.... I had to submit to the promise of walking in the same promise given to my SPIRITUAL mother...
Joshua 1
16They answered Joshua, All you command us we will do, and wherever you send us we will go.
17As we hearkened to Moses in all things, so will we hearken to you; only may the Lord your God be with you as He was with Moses.
I had to wake up to what Yahweh was doing in my life and let go of hat the voices that meant good was speaking out of season out of term and out of ignorance based on what they thought was right....I had to become like Joshua and not let the ministry of Moses the promises and the wisdom of Moses die....
Now notice this is not for everyone... This mission was only for JOSHUA....No every one will not take on the spirit and take the place of a leader... Yes many will start their own ministries..... Yes many will carry out just as Yahweh show them directly... BUT there are few that will take the place of a PROPHET.... Do not miss your Joshua mission because of the others that come to you in good intentions.. ..
Blown through His Living Ram's Horn
Before I stand before men on Yah's behalf I must stand before Yah on men's behalf.
Healing for the Pastor that sees nothing but rebellion Part 1
This was a message that was birthed in the time of my spiritual mother fall. Yes she had a fall that almost devastated ministry today. Her fall was much like Moses she allowed the people harden hearts and refusal of trusting in who Yahweh called her to be as their leader bitter her heart and shift her attitude...This is a PRAYER I have OFTEN Prayed because of her fall... Let not what I see in the People cause me TO Loose sight of YOU Yahweh.... Before I stand before man on Your Behalf ABBA I must stand before You on the behalf of Men....
Numbers 27
14For you disobeyed My order in the Wilderness of Zin during the strife of the congregation to uphold My sanctity [by strict obedience to My authority] at the waters before their eyes. [These are the waters of Meribah in Kadesh in the Wilderness of Zin].
This is something many PASTORS and great leaders fall prey too...There are pastors that have a love for Yah so strong but the people they are called to led DOES NOT..Pastors and Leaders can become frustrated aggravated and disappointed in their flock. What caused Moses to REBELL against YAHWEH’S commandment. In the strive of the congregation Moses doubted that Yah could bless such a rebellious people. He received Yah’s commands and instructions but instead of following through what Yah said in faith (support) He judged the people in anger. He was too busy looking at their attitudes their rebellion their doubt and unbelief until Moses step out of Yahweh’s Leading and walked into their heart. Moses loved his followers more than he could obey YAH. He was so passionated about their obedience that He missed that Yahweh was saying just be an example to them and let them seal their judgment by their own actions .
Think about it. Moses saw all that Yahweh has done for these people because He loves them. He remember the one on one at the burning bush. He went back how Yah dealt with his own fears. He saw how the journey back to the place he once called home to become the battle axe against the people he once called family. He remember the way Yahweh made sure he was in order and went to elders first to tell all that happened to him, and that he was being sent in YAHWEH’S name as the I am that I am. He thought back on how they rejected him then. He thought back how the elders walked with him, to the first encounter of Pharaoh and looked beside him all dropped of and only one left standing was Aaron. It pained him to remember that he was in the presence of Yah for 40 days and carrying His commandments in His hands. He just reminded YAH Him self about not delivering them just to be laughed at because He kill them in the desert. As He came down hearing the sound of SIN first, then watching YAH’S people whom he just represented in sexual ritual acts before an idol god. Then how he had to hand scribe that which he destroyed because YAH still wanted to give His holy commandments to these defiled people. The heart of this leader was grieved because Korah like the devil himself gathered a percentage of the elders to usurp the authority of his leading giving by Yah.
THIS MAN was grieved, this last act just caused him to doubt and question why would such a Sovereign Yah that corrected him, trained and structure him in holiness would place him before these rebellious people and still want to bless them.
Many do not understand the tears the fight the struggle the pain of a TRUE YAH sent leader..
Moses defiled his leadership by rebelling against the commands of YAH concerning the people whom he was to lead. All out of strive over their rebellion.
Seems unfair, seems cruel seems so unlike YAH. Have we forgotten leadership will be judge HARSHER than the laymen??.
James 3:1
NOT MANY [of you] should become teachers ( self-constituted censors and reprovers of others), my brethren, for you know that we [teachers] will be judged by a higher standard and with greater severity [than other people; thus we assume the greater accountability and the more condemnation]
Moses yet loved the people and understood through his rebellion that the judgment was death. He then asked.
Numbers 27:
15And Moses said to the Lord,
16Let the Lord, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation
17Who shall go out and come in before them, leading them out and bringing them in, that the congregation of the Lord may not be as sheep which have no shepherd.
Even in his rebuke he asked for the people. He still stood as a representative for MEN. He did not accuse them but stood for them. A true YAH sent leader is still doing the same today. THIS LEADERSHIP was not meant to die with Moses nor did it.
Moses passed it down to Joshua.
18The Lord said to Moses, Take Joshua son of Nun, a man in whom is the Spirit, and lay your hand upon him;
20And put some of your honor and authority upon him, that all the congregation of the Israelites may obey him.
23And he laid his hands upon him and commissioned him, as the Lord commanded through Moses.
Pastors learning how to see evil and not react to evil but yet Obey Yah.
Now as I write this it becomes very personal to me because I know that the spirit of Ezekiel rest heavy over the assignment and missions Yahweh has given me... Speaking and restoring the Rebellious House. As I walk with Yah into the rebellion and look behind the walls see the creepy and crawling things it is hard to continue on seeing the commands of Yah upon those whom He is stilling calling by name...It gets harder and harder to carry out the orders of our Abba of mercy when all you see is REBELLION..It does not only become physically hard but also mentally hard... “WHY am I being corrected judged and chastise for these PEOPLE” sometimes become my cry... BUT quickly I have to get up and march on even when I am tired... There are other TRUE YAH sent Leaders that do the same thing.... I also have to admit I can not wait to hear when YAH says enough I extended MY Mercy and grace is no longer given it is time to judge prune and cut off... As I am being honest do you know HOW LONG that sometimes TAKE????....
Leaders are under so much that we must make sure we are equip for the ministry at hand before we even attempt to take on the SPIRIT of leadership..
37The Lord was angry with me also for your sakes, and said, You also shall not enter Canaan.
38But Joshua son of Nun, who stands before you, he shall enter there. Encourage him, for he shall cause Israel to inherit it.
Though Moses was a servant of the Lord, a faithful servant, Moses disobeyed Yah’s orders out of strive and failed in his duty..Leaders you have to keep this covered... That rebellion will hit you in the face and you will prematurely cut off a limb that have signs of health. YOU have TO WAIT on Yahweh and follow HIS orders at all times concerning the people you are to lead....Even when it hurts... Even when they rebel against Yahweh and your authority.
Once a leader such as Moses fall into this state and Yahweh says okay you can not lead them into the place of elevation are you willing to train the ONE THAT WILL????...Are you so focus on YAHWEH and HIS mission that you can accept not receiving the PROMISE here but train someone that will your followers into the promise??? ....
Follower are you able to be mentored into such positions???
Joshua get up and Take Moses Place. Let not Ministry die.
Deuteronomy 34
8And the Israelites wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days; then the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended.
9And Joshua son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom, for Moses had laid his hands upon him; so the Israelites listened to him and did as the Lord commanded Moses.
I can imagine when my spiritual mother had to go through such things.. Training us for something she would not be allowed to see.. Still loving YAH and understanding the purpose...
Joshua was wise WHY???.... Because of HIS training equipping and Moses Laid his hands upon him... That is what it meant... It is not because Moses physically touched him... But Moses actually poured himself inside of him...
Before I go any further, I had to educate many people on this scripture... They told me I could never know YAHWEH face to FACE like MOSES... Because there never rose according the scripture a prophet as great as Moses since... READ IT PEOPLE....
10And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face,
11[None equal to him] in all the signs and wonders which the Lord sent him to do in the land of Egypt--to Pharaoh and to all his servants and to all his land,
12And in all the mighty power and all the great and terrible deeds which Moses wrought in the sight of all Israel.
That scripture says it all... First it said in ISRAEL... Many people teach there can never be a prophet equal to Moses... The scripture does not say that...We are rising to do all the mighty power and all the great and terrible deeds which Moses wrought in the sight of all Israel in the SIGHT of THE NATIONS!!!!!
Joshua 1
1AFTER THE death of Moses the servant of the Lord, the Lord said to Joshua son of Nun, Moses' minister,
2Moses My servant is dead. So now arise [take his place], go over this Jordan, you and all this people, into the land which I am giving to them, the Israelites.
3Every place upon which the sole of your foot shall tread, that have I given to you, as I promised Moses.
This is a big problem in the church today. Many are seeking their own ministry their own identity their own anointing and allow MINISTRIES such as MOSES go UNFINISHED!!
We have so much teachings on seeking your own ministry and seeking your own calling ... Make sure you do not try to mimic your leader that many are rejecting the mission of JOSHUA...I was one that was being talked out of my MISSION As Joshua...
People came in good intention trying to stop me from what they call worshiping my leader... They came trying to teach me that I am too busy trying to become just like my leader... I know it was all in good intention but it was not the MESSAGE for MY MISSION of YAHWEH...I was sent to my spiritual mother I was birth in her spiritual prayer womb for different purpose of all her other children... I was called to TAKE HER PLACE.... Her mission is not up upon this LAND... It was sidetracked and stopped by her STRIVE with her followers...
I was hearing many voices all with LOVE and Concerns about my SPIRITUAL life that came with conflicting words towards where YAHWEH was TAKING ME!!!....
I became unsure and uneasy with my training... I begin to go through the check list of the don’ts people put before me.. Do not pray like her... You sound too much like her... DO not put your hands on your hip like her... Why are you wearing a rob like her??.... I begin to be cautious of not trying do what they called worshipping her or being cloned into her that I was about to MISS HER SPIRIT!!!!!!
I was about to reject the very reason why YAH called her to this MISSION... It was being rejected because I wanted my own.... I did not want passed down anointing... I wanting fresh anointing... MY identity was being lost I convinced my self... Oh this is not of YAH... Why do I want her spirit any way she is REJECTED to go into the PROMISE....
I was reasoning my way out of what Yah had ordered...
Now I thank YAHWEH ahhhhh... That I woke up from that and learned that I had to submit and take on as Joshua...Look at what I would have missed....
Joshua 1
4From the wilderness and this Lebanon to the great river Euphrates--all the land of the [a]Hittites [Canaan]--and to the Great [Mediterranean] Sea on the west shall be your territory.
5No man shall be able to stand before you all the days of your life. As I was with Moses, so I will be with you; I will not fail you or forsake you.
I had to stop listening to people saying you have your OWN MINISTRY.... I had to submit to the promise of walking in the same promise given to my SPIRITUAL mother...
Joshua 1
16They answered Joshua, All you command us we will do, and wherever you send us we will go.
17As we hearkened to Moses in all things, so will we hearken to you; only may the Lord your God be with you as He was with Moses.
I had to wake up to what Yahweh was doing in my life and let go of hat the voices that meant good was speaking out of season out of term and out of ignorance based on what they thought was right....I had to become like Joshua and not let the ministry of Moses the promises and the wisdom of Moses die....
Now notice this is not for everyone... This mission was only for JOSHUA....No every one will not take on the spirit and take the place of a leader... Yes many will start their own ministries..
Blown through His Living Ram's Horn
Before I stand before men on Yah's behalf I must stand before Yah on men's behalf.
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